This past week has been pretty difficult to say the least. On Thursday evening Nov 5th, news broke about the new "policy " regarding same sex couples and their children.I understand that the media can sensationalize things, SO at first I thought maybe it was some kind of Hoax. Sadly it was not.
Clarification has come that did ease some of the damage of the policy , In that those who already are "on the path" may continue. They will not have those things taken away from them. It also says that if their "primary residence " is not with the Gay family member then they are ok as well, But they have to disavow,
( to disclaim knowledge of, connection with, or responsibility for; disown;) that parents relationship. They will never even be allowed to ever live with them.All others will have to wait until they are 18, and then they still have to disavow the practice of Same sex marriage,( the relationship) and may not ever reside with that parent. Which in some countries will be very difficult, as it is very common for children to live with their family well into their adult years.
Surely seems as if we are trying to destroy a family relationship.
( to disclaim knowledge of, connection with, or responsibility for; disown;) that parents relationship. They will never even be allowed to ever live with them.All others will have to wait until they are 18, and then they still have to disavow the practice of Same sex marriage,( the relationship) and may not ever reside with that parent. Which in some countries will be very difficult, as it is very common for children to live with their family well into their adult years.
Surely seems as if we are trying to destroy a family relationship.
We are drowning
We get that they are now drawing the line in the sand that same sex marriage is a grievous sin, but to extend that to their children? If they are a straight young man or woman, I don't think they are going to have any temptation to enter a same sex marriage, so they would not be participating in that sin.It should be just like anything else. They know the word of Wisdom, they know they should be honest in their dealings, They know the law of chastity, and they agree to follow those commandments. SO why must they "disavow" this particular sin.
So if a heterosexual parent is , embezzling, committing crimes of any kind, maybe involved in pornography, thefts, Infidelity or any "other sin" that is ok, The children are still perfectly fine to live with that parent, and enjoy the blessings of the gospel.?
IT clearly does not seem as if this is a fair and loving policy. It has shaken many of us parents, and even some who have no specific ties to the LGBT community , to our very core. As we have posted comments and articles asking for love and compassion, expressing our hurt and concern, many of us are being hit with Judgments and scorn.
Comments such as "why don't you just leave the church"
or "This is the sifting of the Wheat and the Tares"
We get that they are now drawing the line in the sand that same sex marriage is a grievous sin, but to extend that to their children? If they are a straight young man or woman, I don't think they are going to have any temptation to enter a same sex marriage, so they would not be participating in that sin.It should be just like anything else. They know the word of Wisdom, they know they should be honest in their dealings, They know the law of chastity, and they agree to follow those commandments. SO why must they "disavow" this particular sin.
So if a heterosexual parent is , embezzling, committing crimes of any kind, maybe involved in pornography, thefts, Infidelity or any "other sin" that is ok, The children are still perfectly fine to live with that parent, and enjoy the blessings of the gospel.?
IT clearly does not seem as if this is a fair and loving policy. It has shaken many of us parents, and even some who have no specific ties to the LGBT community , to our very core. As we have posted comments and articles asking for love and compassion, expressing our hurt and concern, many of us are being hit with Judgments and scorn.
Comments such as "why don't you just leave the church"
or "This is the sifting of the Wheat and the Tares"
and "this is like the separating of the sheep and the goats"
"You just need to have faith and follow the leaders." Or even comments such as " I know it came from God, not the old guys who lead us" as If we had said something like that.
"You just need to have faith and follow the leaders." Or even comments such as " I know it came from God, not the old guys who lead us" as If we had said something like that.
We are drowning ,
We need a life preserver, not someone to send us messages that we aren't doing it right, or someone to stand above as as we sink and yell to us things like"You shouldn't get so close to that"
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This for many of us has sent us right back to that very difficult time when our lives were turned upside down as we discovered that one of our family members was gay.That little bubble so many of us live in was burst, and we were left drowning in the midst of despair.
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This for many of us has sent us right back to that very difficult time when our lives were turned upside down as we discovered that one of our family members was gay.That little bubble so many of us live in was burst, and we were left drowning in the midst of despair.
The pattern to follow , the perfect picture of the Mormon family was gone.
Hope faded. Tears and anger set in. We had to reevaluate everything we had thought
What did this mean for them ? for us as a family?
But we held on to hope that somehow this would be made right, That there would be a space for them in the gospel. Surely a loving Heavenly Father would not set his children up for failure.
How could the church we know and love, who teaches all about love and family , turn its back on a whole population of Gods children? The tears just continue to flow as we go about our daily tasks and try to make sense of it all. We struggle to walk into our church buildings only to be met with Silence, and rhetoric about how we need to "Stand tall, have courage to stand up against the evils of the world "
That is my child you are calling evil.
Can you not see how painful that is? He is not evil . He is a very kind and loving person. He is a hard worker and does his best to try and help those around him. To further the pain, its not even just about him.
It is the many other LGBT people that I know and Love you are talking about. These individuals have to deal with more than you could ever imagine at the hands of others who want to judge and discard them. Have you had to sit with a mother after her child has committed suicide because of the bullying he has experienced? Have you had to worry for hours when you cannot reach someone you know is in total despair and might take his life. Have you sat and listened to a woman talk about feeling so alone and isolated because the church she loves and served a mission for now calls her an apostate just because she loves another woman? The pain and grief is real. Those of us on the front lines are losing the hope that we carried to help lift them up. When will we too be discarded and called apostates for loving and supporting our LGBT friends and family?
And now that hope is all but gone. We feel abandoned, we feel alone. We grieve for our children and family members whom this is devastating to.We grieve for those whom we have met along our journey, men, women , mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, children of God , who are now very clearly getting the message that there is no place for you here. There is no place for your children and grandchildren.
Yes, I have watched the video by Elder Christofferson stating it is in the best interest of the children, Does that really make sense to you? In some cases I'm sure it might apply.
Yes, I have watched the video by Elder Christofferson stating it is in the best interest of the children, Does that really make sense to you? In some cases I'm sure it might apply.
This is what the Savior taught
Luke 18:16 Jesus said Suffer the little children to come unto me and forbid them not.
3 Nephi 18:32 Nevertheless, ye shall not cast him out of your synagogues , or your places of worship, for unto such shall ye continue to minister; for ye know not but what they will return and repent, and come unto me with full purpose of heart, and I shall heal them; and ye shall be the means of bringing salvation unto them.
Luke 9 Teaches us a powerful lesson about what the Lord expects of us when others don't act they way we think they should . When James and John suggest that they bring fire down on the Samaritans who did not receive them well, HE offers this counsel..
But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.
Are they really trying to save them, or are they destroying them?
Haven't we been taught to leave the 99 to seek for the one?
Why are we so quick to discard these individuals who have been born with Same sex attraction?
Take a walk in their shoes for a day. Could you live your life never having the companionship of a spouse? Never being able to even go on a date with someone you find interesting? worrying about being fired from your job or thrown out of your living quarters. OR how about even thrown out of your school? Always having in the back of your mind that you are not worthy, you are defective at best, deviant at worst?
They are in every essence being "thrown out of the boat."
Why as Christians do we feel it is our duty and our right to Point out the faults of those around us?
To make ourselves feel better because their sins our worse than ours?
None of us are perfect. We all have struggles and challenges, We should be helping each other through those difficult times. We are already hurting and yet when we turn to the place that should offer refuge and comfort from the storms, we are battered and tossed about , or shunned.
Can you just mourn with us? Can you share our pain without judgment about our relationship with God? Can we cry on your shoulder? Can you be more careful about your rhetoric when you teach in church? Can you find a way to listen and try to understand?
Haven't we been taught to leave the 99 to seek for the one?
Why are we so quick to discard these individuals who have been born with Same sex attraction?
Take a walk in their shoes for a day. Could you live your life never having the companionship of a spouse? Never being able to even go on a date with someone you find interesting? worrying about being fired from your job or thrown out of your living quarters. OR how about even thrown out of your school? Always having in the back of your mind that you are not worthy, you are defective at best, deviant at worst?
They are in every essence being "thrown out of the boat."
Why as Christians do we feel it is our duty and our right to Point out the faults of those around us?
To make ourselves feel better because their sins our worse than ours?
None of us are perfect. We all have struggles and challenges, We should be helping each other through those difficult times. We are already hurting and yet when we turn to the place that should offer refuge and comfort from the storms, we are battered and tossed about , or shunned.
Can you just mourn with us? Can you share our pain without judgment about our relationship with God? Can we cry on your shoulder? Can you be more careful about your rhetoric when you teach in church? Can you find a way to listen and try to understand?
From a post by Julie De Azevedo Hanks
To my fellow LDS friends...If someone comes to you for support and shares their hurt, sadness, confusion, anger about the recent LDS policy changes may I suggest some things to keep in mind?
1) Just Listen
Don't explain, preach, justify, quote scriptures, pontificate. Just nod your head, try to feel what they are feeling, and non-verbally show that you are engaged.
2) Empathize With Their Emotion
Even if you don't feel the same way or you don't understand why they are feeling the way they do, empathize and reflect back what they are sharing.
3) Don't Frame their Pain as a Lack of Faith
Avoid judgement, blame, shaming, or directive statements like, "If you would just..." or "I thought you had more faith than this" or "You should just..."
4) Acknowledge the Unanswered Questions
It's OK to say that you don't know. Validate the complexity and confusion associated with the situation.
5) Express Your Love
The condescending "bless your heart" pity-love won't work. Look him/her in the eye and share your love for her/him and your faith in the Savior.
Don't explain, preach, justify, quote scriptures, pontificate. Just nod your head, try to feel what they are feeling, and non-verbally show that you are engaged.
2) Empathize With Their Emotion
Even if you don't feel the same way or you don't understand why they are feeling the way they do, empathize and reflect back what they are sharing.
3) Don't Frame their Pain as a Lack of Faith
Avoid judgement, blame, shaming, or directive statements like, "If you would just..." or "I thought you had more faith than this" or "You should just..."
4) Acknowledge the Unanswered Questions
It's OK to say that you don't know. Validate the complexity and confusion associated with the situation.
5) Express Your Love
The condescending "bless your heart" pity-love won't work. Look him/her in the eye and share your love for her/him and your faith in the Savior.
Yes, many are resigning and walking away, but many are also staying.
Why you ask?
Because we love our Heavenly Father,
We love our Savior Jesus Christ.
We have testimonies ( although shaken a bit)
It is our church too, and just because we have questions and doubts, it does not negate all the things we do know.
WE feel it a responsibility and duty to follow our baptismal covenants , To bear one anothers burdens, Mourn with those who mourn, and comfort those who stand in need of comfort .
Many of us are mothers, biologically and spiritually, to some very precious souls who need us now more than ever.and will stand up for them.
If I can make a difference for even one soul to hang on and fight another day. I will be safe in knowing my Heavenly Father is pleased with me.
The first and great commandment is to Love the Lord they God with all thy heart might mind and strength, and the second is like unto it. Love thy neighbor as thyself.
Pres. Spencer W Kimball stated. "God does notice us, but it is usually through another person that he meets our needs."
This fulfills both of those commandments. When we Love God , we serve and help others.
We don't belittle them. We don't discard them or turn them away. We think about the things we say and do and how that might hurt someone else.
D&C 137:9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts.
Not one of us can really know the desire of anothers heart .
Leave it to God.
D&C 137:9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts.
Not one of us can really know the desire of anothers heart .
Leave it to God.
Reach out a hand to help those who are drowning in despair right now over the loss of hopes and dreams and blessings. You don't have to agree or understand, but you can offer empathy and compassion. We gain empathy when we truly seek to understand someone elses position. And remember just because you don't think you know anyone who is affected by this, you probably are wrong.
I find comfort in the words of Alma to his son Helaman in chapter 36
And now, O my son Helaman, behold, thou art in thy youth, and therefore, I beseech of thee that thou wilt hear my words and learn of me; for I do know that whosoever shall put their trust in God shall be supported in their trials, and their troubles, and their afflictions, and shall be lifted up at the last day.
I find comfort in the words of Alma to his son Helaman in chapter 36
And now, O my son Helaman, behold, thou art in thy youth, and therefore, I beseech of thee that thou wilt hear my words and learn of me; for I do know that whosoever shall put their trust in God shall be supported in their trials, and their troubles, and their afflictions, and shall be lifted up at the last day.
I am counting on this.
THANK YOU! Your words reflect exactly what's in my heart.
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I do have a strong testimony of the Gospel; but I also have a strong testimony of Christ's love for ALL of his siblings, especially my LGBTQIA family (and I feel like they are ALL my family). I can NOT believe that He is smiling down on this damaging "policy" with approval. The cognitive dissonance and the SPIRITUAL DISSONANCE are tearing me apart. I have had to dig way down deep to the roots of my convictions of the Gospel--my Savior, the Atonement, Joseph Smith restoring the gospel, the Book of Mormon. With THOSE basics in mind, I have decided that this new (or rather, continued) dissonance does not have to make me resign. So I will stay, stay active, and absolutely WILL CONTINUE what I feel is a direct call from my Savior to continue ministering with and loving and supporting my LGBTQIA family in all the ways that I can. If The Church has a problem with me following my Savior in this way, they will have to throw me out, and I will go with my head held high.
I'm off to share your words as far and wide as I can.
Once again, THANK YOU.
I always struggle with with writing, but I feel it is part of my responsibility to not hide in the shadows of this issue, but to speak up and be a voice for Christlike love and acceptance for ALL of Gods children.To maybe help ease the burden of a mom or dad who are beginning this journey and feel they have no where to go. I am grateful to have people like you on this journey with me, and that even though I may feel alone, I know that there are lots of MAMAS out there in the same boat. Love you Lisa
DeleteAnita, I can't imagine how difficult dealing with this new policy must be for many of our fellow saints. But I can testify to you that God does love ALL of his children. The proof is in the atonement. ALL men have and will have the chance to repent and come unto Christ. So this is my view on the subject and we can agree to disagree, but this is not the first time God has excluded his children from partaking of all the ordinances and blessings of the church. There are many examples in the Old Testament. I don't look at this as a slight on any particular sin, to God sin is sin. But to break covenants, that is a serious matter. So why this policy? Because we are a covenant people. All he does is for the salvation of mankind. Every man. When one is baptized, he or she takes the first step, by covenant, towards his salvation. The plan of salvation revolves around the family unit as described by God in his Proclamation to the World. Is it really fair to baptize a child that is in a home that teaches the opposite? How hard will it be for that child to fulfill his part of the covenant when from the start they are taught that a gay family unit is okay? The Plan of Salvation leads to more covenants, temple marriage. So does God not want some of his children to make covenants? He wants all his children to be a covenant people. But is is my view that he protects his children from making covenants when it is so very difficult for them to keep them or when they are just not ready. Out of mercy the children of Israel were given the lesser law, blacks were withheld the Priesthood. It will be but a moment to God. The day will come when all his children have the opportunity to partake of the fulness of the blessings of God. And of course, this is just my opinion, I can't really know why God has made these restrictions. But I do know that ALL his children will have the chance to be saved, he will not leave them hanging. When he comes again, all will be restored. So do not be discouraged. Ignore the haters and those who do not understand the Love of God. Again, my testimony is that God loves us all, he love you and your family.
DeleteKay, Thank you for taking the time to read and try to understand. Yes, we can agree to disagree. I too believe that God loves ALL his children and has a plan for them. This policy ( which is very different from doctrine) just is not representative of that for many. I know too many individuals and situations, where the scenarios they present do not apply, and children will be denied very fundamental blessing during their formative years. All I can do is turn to the Savior for understanding and guidance as I continue to serve these precious souls who just want to be counted among the saints.
DeleteThank you for your words. I hope you don't think I was pushing against you with your FB post. We all have our struggles we encounter along this path we are all one. I have no Idea why this came out and why it is so harsh. But I do love and support you for your Christ like love you show and give to the LBGT community. You really are an example to me with your Love and support of all people, Since I struggle with that A LOT!
ReplyDeleteThanks Stephanie. WE all have things we have to work on. IF we were perfect we would be translated right :) We just need to realize our own faults and work on them instead of pointing out others, and be prayerful about what we can d o to help others on their path where we may be strong. LOVE YOU
DeleteThank You for your message. I, like All of us, hope to understand this someday...that someday this will all make sense as I too am struggling to hang on just one more day. I pray that in our efforts to stay in the church we can change hearts and minds and bring everyone together in Love and Inclusion for ALL of Gods children..
ReplyDeleteME too Glendabulous! me too!!
DeleteI am grateful for these posts to help better understand and have empathy for what others are experiencing. I have come to realize that we as members don't have control over what comes down to us from the brethren or from God for that matter, but we do have control over ourselves and what we choose to do with the knowledge we have. I have the desire to love all of Gods children, but don't always know how. I sincerely want my LBGT brothers and sisters to feel welcome and loved in our church but don't know how to do that when on the other hand we deny them participation. I do believe that Gods plan for us is to be together as man and woman, but I can't resolve that with why some would be born same sex attraction which I also believe to be true. Except that maybe there is something wrong like depression or anxiety in another. But then if I admit I think something might be "broken" am I invalidating them and making them feel less. It's so complicated and I comment here to sincerely and honestly share what it's like being on the other side and not knowing where to step. I would love any help in understanding your perspective here, and in a perfect world, how would you wish others to understand someone like your son better and love him in a church where sometimes it feels double sided. "You're always welcome to come, but you can't be a member or have a calling or pray in church" how welcome would you really feel?
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Shera, Thank you so much for being brave and speaking what your experience is like. I totally get the cognitive dissonance in this situation, and for that I have no answers. Believe me I wish I did. Its true , FOr me, This new policy just does not seem like something Christ would approve of. WHy would he cast out these children who have done nothing wrong. Why would he feel it is best to deny them the gift of the holy Ghost during those difficult teenage years? For many of us, we just need to be validated that this is painful. Send a note, make a call. Let them know you are thinking of them. For the LGBT members. Treat them like you would anyone else, invite them into your home, to your activities. Don't rub it in that they are "cast aways" YEs, IT makes it difficult when they very church they love and want to participate in is drawing the line in the sand, and if they choose to be true to themselves and find a companion to share their life with they will be removed, but for some that is their only real viable option. The suicide rate among this population is huge because they are trying to live and be something they are not. Talk to them. Learn about them. I think you will find that most are just like you . The outreach of those around them can make all the difference in the world until such time that "the Church" will be more open and welcoming for them and their families. I hold onto Hope that Our Heavenly Father will reveal his plan for them , and that it will be more inclusive than it is at this time.Until such time, it is my "POLICY" that no one within my circle of influence will feel that they are not loved and accepted for who they are, That they will know that my door is always open and as much as they are able they can participate in the spirit I can bring them. I hope this helps answer something that doesn't have a lot of answers at this time.
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Delete"So if a heterosexual parent is , embezzling, committing crimes of any kind, maybe involved in pornography, thefts, Infidelity or any "other sin" that is ok, The children are still perfectly fine to live with that parent, and enjoy the blessings of the gospel.?'
ReplyDeleteAnd darling one, that is the crux of it isn't it? It's not what you do, its what say and SHOW outwardly. You can be a really horrible person, but if you teach your children what the church wants you to- regarding all aspects- then that's good enough. Gay parents who are in a relationship and especially who are legally and lawfully married cannot meet this condition for the church to "look the other way".
It is definitely not about "protecting the children"- it's about protecting the brand.
I love the thoughts from Julie DeAzevedo. I feel like members of the Church get particularly defensive when they see someone disagree. As if it is of offense to them. Is it because they have some doubt they are trying to hide? Is it because they are terrified of being wrong? Why can't we better at listening, loving, embracing?
ReplyDeleteI absolutely despise this new policy. And one of the hardest parts for me has been the reaction of the saints. I have heard it too. "Separating the wheat from the tares" Tares? That is a pretty harsh judgement to make, especially in regards to a fellow saint who is struggling with a policy. Thank you for your courage to speak up and to reach out. I am certain that the Savior looks down with deep love, compassion, and concern as He watches us struggle and battle over something that breaks apart families, that He so dearly loves. Very well written. Thank you!
Thanks Katie for your kind words
DeleteWe don't know why this new policy was given. But I feel Heavnly Father gave it so see how obedient we we are going to be to him even thru the hardest of things and times. Why is so hard for some to understand this. We can love the sinner and hate the sin. We do that all the time. People try to sugar coat this. There are alot of people who are druggies or different things. We can love them but hate the sin. In the scriptures it states that man lying with another man is not right. Heavenly Father has told us that for so long but still people say well they are good people, they have families etc. and yes they are nice and kind but Heavenly Father has stated it so much it is wrong. It is sad people are going against Heavenly Father and supporting LBGT. What does that tell Heavenly Father. You don't matter to us. We are going to support the sin and believe in that. In fact we will give up our membership all for someone who is having gay sex. We have to stand our ground and our commitment to Heavenly Father and our testimony but still can love the person. We can treat them nice, but you can still not believe in what they do. I will follow my Heavenly Father and stand with him and the prophets, but can still love others. But I will not march with them and support the homosexual sin.
Delete"This is more than an issue of one policy and its semantics. It is a fundamental, philosophical, spiritual divide of the mind and heart . There is no question that we can and should find a place in our churches, our lives, and our hearts for our LGBT brothers and sisters who love and marry someone of their gender. I understand it is difficult, potentially even impossible, for church members to see this unless they personally know the loving, happy, healthy people these new policies hurt. But I do personally know these people, many people, dear friends, and I do not believe that God does not allow and support their lives and loving familial ties as equally as my own. I can't. Where is there anything in teh bookof Mormon or D&C about homosexuality? I think there are many things that we just don't have answers to yet, and I know that my Heavenly Father is pleased with me for leaving the "judging" to him , and following him as he taught in seeking out those who most need his love,light and understanding.HE is patient with me as I continue in faith the best way I know how even though I have questions and concerns . WE are NOT going against Heavenly Father when we choose to reach out to others in empathy and compassion for pains that cut very deeply. One thing you miss, is that Drug addicts, thieves, murderers are not necessarily kicked out of the church . Some are yes, if the crime is bad enough , but many maintain their memberships . they are not cast off like the LGBT community is being now, and For those of us so closely tied to these individuals, we cannot help but Mourn with them for that loss .OR comfort them or even do our best to bear their burdens. Isn't that what we agreed to do when we were baptized?
DeleteI love all the comments above and Anita Stephens inspiring, heartfelt words. I have two gay children and I know they were who they are before they came down here to earth. I have a sure knowledge of this. In my patriarchal blessing I was told I would have these children. I was told that they were put on this earth to be a trail and a test for us, to see how we will treat them. Its not easy for any of our children who are hampered physically. But unlike other physical handicaps, from birth these children have an extra hard burden of living in a world that will not except them for who they are. Their challenge is to be brave enough to be the person they are, in a world full of people who question their being one of Gods children..and suggesting they were born sinners. I find for many so called good Church members who are not blessed with LGBT children. It is easier for them to go on in the Church business as usual and turn their backs on their LGBT brothers and sisters. With no thought of the hardship we face and even more so now than ever before...It is true we are a minority and there are very view of us in comparison to the church membership. It may not be a great lose for the church. It was an easy choice to make for them for that reason. This new policy breeds a new kind of challenge for these good LGBT people. It teaches against Christianity and Gods law to love one another. I know that this policy cannot come from our savior, it is a man made policy. Christ was not behind this call. It was fearful men who were raised to hate what they don't understand. I don't believe for one minute that they men behind this prayed about the decisions made in this new policies. I feel they just got together and decided to do it now and pluck out all future seeds from members from the Gay community. Next it will be the parents who support their children marring the same sex partner that will no longer be able to hold a recommend or a calling in the church. They can't stop here, This is just the beginning of whats to come. What the Church as not told us YET...You can't tell children to denounce same sex practices of there gay parents, with out reprimanding the parents who also support their gay children to marry to begin with. We will all be questioned as to weather or not we support our children in these same sex practices. If they don't then this policy is seriously flawed and shows it is just ridiculous and stupid. It has to be all or nothing. As they have said to LBGT community from the start..You can't pick and chose what part of the Bible we believe. Policies can not be left half done either. That is why I am going to be leaving before they make me feel like I am wrong in supporting my children.
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